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money. and the average person needs that $2,000 in his pocket to drive the economy. saying that tax breaks for the rich drive consumers lower down to spend is like saying you could start your car by pouring gasoline on the hood. there's no proof, there's no factual data to support it. it's completely a sham to say that. >> and he's a business owner. we need more members of congress to sound like that. if the president is trying to achieve solidarity on raising the top tax rate, these are the voices that can come through for them with that message in a big way. an owner of an automobile supply company says she supports the plan even if it means her own personal rates will go up. . >> i would have higher tax rates, but r more important and more crucial, the middle class would be spending about $3,000 more. >> harry reid kept the focus on the president's winning campaign message of letting the tax cuts expire on incomes over $250,000 a year. >> the people who have done so well during this difficult time with the economy, the richest of the rich are going to have to pay a little more to
to you saying, look, congress might not blow up the economy for no good reason. or if i do have to say it, i shouldn't sound excited about it. that should be a given. but in recent years, it has not been a given. and the reason it hasn't been is in some ways traceable to this guy. you know that guy. that is grover norquist. if you go by his name or his picture, he may not seem imposing. but in the republican party, he's a guy that breaks your knees if you vote for higher taxes. all republicans pretty much sign it and they are very, very, very loathed to break it. and that's made it impossible to reach a deficit reduction deal, until now. "the new york times" has an article in which republican after republican after republican goes on the record by name dismissing his pledge and his power. peter king says a pledge is good at the time you sign it. in 1941 i would have voted to declare war on japan. but each congress is a new congress and you can't have a rule that you're never going to raise or lower taxes. i don't want to rule anything out. senator of georgia said, i'm frankly not concerne
return to a normal economy that returns about 18.5%, that would increase revenue an additional over $400 billion per year, that's $750 billion of revenue per year through economic growth. and the president, his proposal would raise 1/10 of that but would put at risk the economic growth and that $750 billion. so -- >> sir, with all due respect, though -- >> counterproductive. >> that's an answer to the question. there's nothing you see over the next 35 days that would have you break that pledge with grover norquist? >> no, because raising taxes harms the economic growth. you get ten times the revenue by economic growth rather than punishing success. and, again, all of us are saying president obama, show us your plan for restraining the size of government, that's the main problem. again, his revenue proposal would raise $68 billion when we have over $1 trillion worth of deficit. where's the other $1 trillion in his balance plan? mr. president, show us your plan. >> sir, one thing, mitch mcconnell has said that revenue is on the table as long as entitlements would be on the table. conductin
are cutting back on spending and a bad deal for the economy? well, let's ask. ben stein, dagen mcdowell, charlie gasperino and gary k. want to start with you. bad deal for all of us? >> of course, look, business investment was already down last quarter over 1%, and the word uncertainty just pervades the air and its business, its consumer, how about philanthropic organizations don't no what kind of write-offs for charity and the worst the outcome is probably going to be more, and taxes are going to go up and of course there will be no spending cuts. >> and ben, it does sound ominous, even if you're not someone who reads the wall street journal, the fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff, it could be the-- i don't know intimidation factor, it could actually be worse than going over the cliff. >> i think that's a brilliant point, charles. if we went over the cliff for a few months the impact would not be enormous, and uncertainty is a bad word and fear is a really, really bad words and these are the words that govern the economy today and imperative that democrats put their heart and soul into a
and the fight to save the economy. in his first interview since the big romney loss, i will ask reince priebus if his party is out of touch with the country. plus his plans to fix the gop. >>> plus president obama's tax push. he wants the rich to pay up but is it fair? >>> and one of the most influential spiritual leaders in the world, america's pastor, rick warren. he was there at barack obama's first inauguration. will he be there again? we're talking politics, same sex marriage and the "two and a half men" star whose christian conversion has him attacking his own show. this is "piers morgan tonight." >>> good evening. our big story tonight, countdown to financial doomsday, the fiscal cliff and the clock is ticking. 35 days left before this massive sweeping tax hike. america's now at the mercy of washington, hoping that both sides can end the fighting and make a deal. anti-tax champion grover norquist last night told me he's keeping republicans to the no tax increase pledge they made decades ago. but should his party back away from that promise? joining me in his first interview since the el
.s. economy and millions of american families have been struggling with unemployment and underemployment, net sales for the walton family has grown more than $70 billion since the start of the great recession. now, a lot of those families in the bottom half struggling with underemployment are in fact walmart workers. a leaked internal document revealed that the base pay at the sam's club stores can be as low as $8 an hour. that's a mere $16,000 a year. with wage increases in drips and drabs as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour. one study found that walmart employees in california were nearly 40% more likely to use public assistance to make ends meet. costing the state's taxpayers $86 million annually. that means people with jobs in that state are still having to turn to the public safety net to get by. because working at walmart is not sustainable employment. if walmart became the standard across all retailers in california, taxpayers would have to subsidize their fellow workers with an additional $410 million a year. yet according to a study by the policy development and advocacy administration
to how this economy is. and how much we have created the entitlement mentality that everyone feels they should that they should be on food stamps. when you look at the costs, within about two years, texas at the federal level are going to go just to pay for entitlement programs that have no money left over to pay for all of the other programs of the government. and i find it very suspicious and interesting as you do that here we ha been talking about this for the last couple of weeks and nobody is talking about reforming these things. >> here is the thing. my idea is let them out there. you have a coupe of years to do damage control. ultimately, if everyone gets their head in the sand in washington, we haven't even talked about the interest on debt the debt that we owe. between that and how do we have an economy? how we grow an economy? that we provide for the kids? >> that's a great point. when i talked about the exploding cost of entitlement, there is something that is the expensive single program. it is hard to reform these programs with the democrats and unions. the unioion to
have to give a comprehensive bill. >> our economy right now needs skilled workers, about people who want to come here and we should fix the system that's broken and not only that family friendly and keeps families together and some families have one member of the family come here on a green card and they have to wait several years before they're reunited and this bill corrects that. >> they can't work once they get here, but they can come and be with their families. >> gentlemen, thank you so much, good see you both. >> thank you. >> pope benedict xvi, elevating six new cardinals today. you may remember he elevated cardinals last february, but the new group is made up entirely of non-europeans including one american. and today's choice will help choose his successor. >> and with the crowning of the six new cardinals, appropriate benedict is it putting his seal on the papacy and decades to follow. appointing well over half the men who will vote for his successor. while all are fairly young, the cardinals stand out for what they're not. they're neither european or italian. and the car
continue to believe that the u.s. economy is in pretty good shape. the consumer's in good shape. housing bottomed about 14, 15 months ago. companies like home depot, which recently exceeded expectations, raised long-term profitability goals, and portly, frank blake, who's orchestrated a great turnaround has noted that housing has finally gone from being a head wind to a tail wind. we like the asset management companies like waddell and reed. their flagship fund is in the eighth percentile year to date. industries and companies like retail, small banks, and home builders, we think are going to be good places to be as we go into the new year. >> all right. we will leave it there. rick santelli, final word from you on what drives fixed income and treasuries toward year end. same issues, i guess. >> well, i think next week, first of all, we have a gdp revision. second time around on third quarter. many are calling for a big upward revision from 2% to 2.8. if that actually happens, i think that would be a rather compelling reason outside of quiet holiday markets to see some sustained selling
say that the president proposed $1.6 trillion in new revenue? he wants to destroy the economy? come on. who in their right mind will allow that kind of increase to devastate the economy. it will not be hostess going out of business. >> lou: that is a good point and it is interesting, no one is talking about the fact that individual tax payments, taxpayer payments, internal revenue service, receipts from those taxpayers have risen 26% under the bush tax cuts, over the past two years which tells us that the answer here is growth. >> that's right. >> lou: i'm a simple fellow and i'd like to see everybody start talking to each other. let me turn to benghazi, because, the special prosecutor. there is a sense of hopelessness that is palpable in washington, d.c., right now. because, i don't believe the congress feels that it has the strength or the tools to actually penetrate the veil of denial and secrecy and opaqueness that is the administration, when it comes to what it has done. witness the last nine weeks. you are calling for a special prosecutor, and the fellow who has to do that work f
to then quickly craft a legislative deal that can stop the damage to the economy that would occur if we went off the cliff and stayed off the cliff. john boehner recognizes that the fiscal cliff is the president's leverage, but boehner believes he has leverage, too. politico reported this morning president barack obama made a demand of how john boehner near the end of their first white house meeting on the fiscal cliff, raised the debt limit before year's end. boehner responded, quote, there is a price for everything. boehner told president obama at the white house that the debt limit increase is quote my leverage. although he added that he's flexible on when it should be done. senator durbin said today that raising the debt ceiling must be part of any deal with republicans. >> i also think that the president isn't going to sign off on any agreement that doesn't include some certainty as to budgets, appropriations, dealing with our debt ceiling. we're not going to find ourselves with some big party celebrating in february and then turn around and march and have another doomsday scenario with the
and certainly the largest threat to the u.s. economy. >> meredith whitney was talking back in 2010 about a then- looming financial crisis involving state and local governments across the country. it was a debt crisis which some people believe could derail the recovery and require another big bailout package that no one in washington wants to talk about. >> the day of reckoning has arrived. that's it. and it's gonna arrive everywhere. time may vary a little bit depending upon which state you're in, but it's coming. [ticking] >> welcome to 60 minutes on cnbc. i'm steve kroft. in this edition, we look at three stories linked by the financial collapse of 2008. first, we examine a scam that's cost thousands of americans their homes. then we look into wall street's shadow market of credit default swaps. finally, a report on the perilous state of state finances. we begin with the foreclosure crisis. in the aftermath of the great recession, the huge number of foreclosed properties was a significant factor in weighing down the economy. many were stuck on the market for an unexpected reason: the banks co
that are behind these numbers are relate primarily to the economy and as we all know the economy is still sluggish but there is improvement. >> aaa estimates that 40% of travelers left the day before thanksgiving and 36% returning today and 25% tomorrow. it could be a long journey home. this is what it looked like on the 405 on los angeles on the big get away day with traffic backed up for miles. and on thanksgiving morning as drivers headed out on i-10 east in beamont, texas. a husband and wife were killed and 100 injured and the trail of wreckage stretched for two miles. forecasters say more fog and snow in parts of the midwest and northeast could make it trougher getti tougher getting home after a long holiday weekend. >> reporter: again, as this afternoon goes on, we're going to see the traffic build on this road. about a 10% drop, alex, than they spent last year. >> michelle franzen there. here's a big question. will the weather cooperate for travelers out there? here with the travel forecast to answer that for us is dylan. >> most areas will cooperate. you're just dealing with the traffic as
that would avoid that potentially devastating fiscal cliff that is looming over the u.s. economy right now. the president is meeting with small business owners at the white house today. he had a series of meetings with different business leaders over the last week. despite the warnings that the talks are stalling on capitol hill stuart varney joins me now, host of "varney & company" on fox business network. >> good morning, martha. bill:. martha: what are you hearing how this is going? >> it is impasse basically. the republicans said yesterday they accommodated the democrats they will agree to get more money from wealthy people from higher taxes but mitch mcconnell, senate republican leader, he says there has been no similar compromise from the democrats or the president. he says they are still holding out for higher tax rates on the rich and he says the radical left is prescenting the democrats and president and agreeing to serious reform from medicare. martha, i have to tell you. i got new numbers from medicare, from trustees, actually. medicare has to pay out in the future $42 trillion.
to cripple the syrian economy. eight round-trip flights between moscow and damascus delivering more than 200 tons of, quote, bank notes into syria. u.s. and european sanctions include a ban on syrian currency in an attempt to slow the violence that's killed thousands of people. syria and russian officials have so far not responded to the reports. >>> overseas tens of thousands are rallying today in cairo's tahrir square protesting what they view as a blatant power grab by president mohamed horsey. with tensions mounting yesterday, morsi appeared to soften his controversial attempt to award himself near absolute power above the reach of the law. in a vaguely worded statement, morsi spokesman backtracked slightly saying that only acts of sovereignty would be immune from oversight. >>> well, u.s. consumers went big this weekend for small business saturday. millions of holiday shoppers spent a total of $5.5 billion during the third annual local business shopping event. mika spent half of that in the south of france. and that's not even counted in that tally. for more on the holiday shopping seas
? >> if you look at what might happened, in other words, we go from an environment where the economy is chugging along, uninspiring but growing 2%, to go over the fiscal cliff which means for that period when we're over the fiscal cliff, contracting, that suggests that multiples come down probably as much as 10%. in addition you're likely to see drop in earnings estimates as well. some real risk if we go over the cliff. >> a lot. >> michael, you're not as concerned about the impact of the fiscal cliff on the markets. why? >> first of all, i don't think we'll go over the cliff. i think it's a lower probability we will not rather than we will. here's where i think you need to position a portfolio strategy. i don't think the market is priced in if we go over the cliff. what you need to do is be in risk assets, if this makes sense, more defense risk assets. dividend payers, technology, even overseas, emerging markets. china looks like it's finally starting to recover because the bottom line is, even if we don't go over the fiscal cliff, we'll still have a very, very slow growth environme
's the one most beneficial for our economy. >> reporter: the president's trying to take advantage of that different tone. he talked to speaker boehner over the weekend by telephone. and today you've had two business leaders, john engler, tom donahue, in to meet with senior white house officials. they're trying to keep this going. aides on capitol hill tell me no substantive progress in negotiations just yet. they're just now getting back to work after thanksgiving. >> how does that make you feel about the market? does it make you feel like they have more kum-bi-ya going on in washington, d.c.? does it make you more willing to invest? >> i'll tell you what. i saw spielberg's "lincoln" over the weekend and it was incredible because it reminded me how nothing has changed on capitol hill. >> i agree with you 150%. >> in 150 years. >> don't you get tired of everybody saying, oh, washington is a mess right now. it's never been this bad. it's always been this bad. you see that in the movie. >> well, we had a civil war in the -- >> some say it's never been worse. it's been worse. >> go ah
the economy and if we do that on january 15th and it is a good deal, i would much prefer that over doing a bad deal on december 15th for face-saving on the january 1 fiscal cliff drop dead date. >> eliot: you're among the group that have been called the cliff jumpers. i don't know how you take that phrase but you've been willing to say let's go over the cliff. it will not be as dangerous and as cataclysmic as people are saying. >> i'm in good company. warren buffett. basically this artificial deadline is not a cliff. it is a slope. the bottom line is we've got to get a good deal. something that is sustainable and durable and not hit the panic button and then try to spin what is a bad deal as a good deal because that won't be sustainable after january 1st. >> eliot: that's not only correct on substance. unless we say that, the other side will stick us up and hold us to the deadline and get us to flinch at the end which unfortunately has been the history of the white house in the last couple of years. your wisdom there, i
stores that are struggling in a tough economy. local retailers are looking for a boost they need. and ther joining us from new york with more on this effort. >> anna. >> hey, there. today is small business saturday and carries more significance. and the northeast is still reeling economically from super storm sandy. we are here in long island and the owner said sandy could not have hit at a worse time. she makes 40 percent of the sales and said it will be impossible to make up the sails and is thankful because all of the ventors are letting her delay payment. >> i was in tires actually over that. i was scared. i don't want to lose my credit and good name and repitation. they are sticking by me. >> this business is like your child. >> this is my other home. this is it my other home. >> from staten island to long island ther urging to give back and help neighborhoods devastated by the storm. it is it estimated 100 million people participated in the growing event. and the economic impact and in the 50 billion range and 12 billion in new york city alone and 20 billion. total from los
1st or 11:59 the day before january 1st. it's already starting to impact the economy. whether it impacts consumers -- and we'll find out today, by the way, in terms of thanksgiving and what's that meant, whether consumers are coming out or not -- but thoorz the bigger issue that manufacturing has already started to slow down. people are starting to worry. it may end up in the economic numbers already, just the fact that we're having this debate. and then come january 1st, do we go over? what does that mean? is it the fiscal cliff? or does it look like the fiscal bungee cord? that's what some people are calling it. we go over for two weeks and then we snap back and get a deal and what does that deal look like? >> a lot of positive talk following the election. even bill kristol talking about let's feel free to raise taxes if it's part of a bigger deal. a lot of elections don't have consequences, midterm elections. this was supposed to be a status quo election. but something happened here. i think the fever is starting to break. >> absolutely. you're going to see it, i think, on
all of those. but is black friday still good for our economy? does it help? does it create jobs? will it help the obama administration, recession and the unemployment levels, as easy as it is to talk about the ugly aspects of it, what are the positive aspects if any. shop at local small businesses on friday. why not think about buying american-made products and think about keeping your money in your community by buying locally? we'll get to all of that governor eliot spitzer will be l kaing in host of "viewpoint" here on current tv. likewise, film critic allison bails who i'm a big fan of, and she'll be talking about what are some good films that smart politically progressive minded people can go see, and what are some good movies you can take your family to see or escape from your family with. and scott backman will be on. >> i can't wait for that. >> john: yesterday we had dean on, and they do a show together. and scott takes the position where he is very pro israel but not a huge fan of their government. anthony popus will be calling in, and is wal-mart as
the united states that egypt will require to help its economy recover. >> eliot: that is the balancing act that prime minister morsi is trying to effect wait here. in essence for his economy to come back, he knows he needs the united states. he needs peace. a war would be devastating to what long-term he has to care about. is that, in fact clinton has with morsi in saying to him you have got to lean on hamas to stop this and somehow we will navigate through this in the coming months but it seems to me that morsi has made himself a central figure in this process. >> well, sure. i suppose the difficulty for president morsi is hamas is the key actor in this equation but obviously there are other groups resident in gaza that perhaps even hamas does not completely control. so when you get to that aspect of assurances, prime minister netanyahu wants a period of calm before he signs a truce. obviously gave that point -- it is very challenging. eliot, the other aspect as your opening clip of hillary clinton underlined is the third
of the pattern for the s&p 500. lower than less than three points. >> so with all the good news on the economy out today, still no rally for stocks. is it really still all about the fiscal cliff for investors right now? let's talk about that in our clo"closing bell" exchange. steve liesman will have breaking news momentarily. steve, do you have that? >> yes, i do. what we have is a report from the new york fed on consumer finance. what the news shows is that overall, consumer credit outside of real estate is up just a bit. most of that, by the way, is student loan debt, being up about $42 billion inside that $2.7 trillion number. overall, mortgage debt is down and overall debt is down. the basic gist of the details, bill, is that consumer credit continues to decline overall. delinquencies are down and bankruptcies are down. balance sheet repair continues. a little bit more willingness of the consumer to take on some debt and a lot of it -- >> that's very interesting, steve. let me ask you something, david. >> i want to make one more point, which is that when you talk about how much the dow is
taxes which we think would be harmful to the economy. and if you look at how much revenue that raises, $68 billion next year, that funds a government for less than a week. and it does potential significant harm to the economy and raises taxes on the very people we are asking to go out and create jobs. >> dick durbin says when you're talking about entitlement reform or cuts in spending for medicare, medicaid for example, he says that's too complicated now. listen to what he said this morning. >> when it comes to medicare, we know that it's going to run out of money in 12 years. whatever changes we want to make should be thoughtful changes not made in the heat of the fiscal cliff. >> can you defer medicare for example -- medicare reform until after you get a deal on the fiscal cliff? >> well, if we do that, wolf, i think what you have to do is also defer the issue of taxes. i think you extend tax rates some time into the foreseeable future whether that's six months or a year and allow us to go through the process where we can deal with entitlement reform and tax reform in regular order.
, they push forward with technology, and market and the economy. a lot of good public health things is being done, the east of the world could china, india, and down here in 60s they lift, they get healthy educated and small families. they start to grow their economy and see they are catching up today, when wieland 2010, -- these country that borrow mon to richest when they have debt problems 92 this. jim: this raises two amazing results from this think about. there has been thousands of years of human rif history evere was stuck in lower lift 4,00 4,- left for thousands of years, how come some are still stuck. >> this is afghanistan and congo, this is civil war, the best message today is most of the african countries are in fast economy growth, they have corrected the wrong market ideas, they had 20 years a, they have a much better education level of their people today and tanzania has today a situation similar to thailand, 1972. went 40 years we can see african countries doing what asia mas done. john: this is wonderful. >> still 2 billion fellow human buyings are -- beings are in deep pov
and that's when the shooting incident happened. it is a critical geographical i economy here. people thought after the truce it would be safe enough to go to the fence. today proved otherwise. >> stay safe, buddy, appreciate that. next week lawmakers return home from the thanksgiving holidays to resume working on a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. despite optimism from both sides, they remain far apart on what to do about revenues with the white house saying the bush era tax rates should expire and republicans insisting any new revenues come from closing loopholes in the tax code. kristen welker joining us from the white house. he said the talks said to be stalled. what is the white house saying? >> reporter: they certainly know this is going to be a tough slog. certainly you had this sort of sense of bipartisanship after the leaders came to the white house. it seems as though that has gone awe with democrats digging in their heels on the issue of entit entitle. s and republicans on taxes. congress talking about some types of compromises, one that would include rolling back
saying this fiscal cliff is bad for the economy. let's work together now. president obama says no than thanks. this killed me. nothing changed since december of 2010. president obama talked about losing in the midterms and said the worst thing we can do is high inemployment and slow economic growth is raise taxes on anybody so support me in extension of the bush tax cu cuts. nothing has changed about the economy now but the economic growth projections are worse. this is not a great way to make good policy. >> kimberly: that is their campaign slogan. they don't make concessions. they have to do something serious about cutting back on spending. coming back in with the entitlement. without that, it won't make a difference if they raise taxe taxes. taking out the bush tax cuts won'tbe make it go away. >> eric: the food stamp recipients. the latest number. $47 million. more than alabama, connecticut, delaware. minnesota, nebraska. nevada. new hampshire. new mexico. north dakota, oklahoma, oregon, rhode island, south dakota, utah, vermont, west virginia and wyoming combined. populations of t
with him. the goal here is to grow the economy and control spending. you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. we're willing to put revenue on the table as long as we're not raising rates. >> so, joy, boehner is not exactly ready to go along with the american people, it seems. >> i think what you just saw there, rev, was a man waiting for bated breath on january 3rd, hoping that every day gets shorter and shorter and shorter as long as we're still in the lame duck congress and tea party members are still there. i think john boehner still has an ounce of fear that he will lose that vote. so he's always watching his right flank. i think boehner will be in a stronger position if we get to january 3rd and there isn't a deal and he can force a deal on his tea party members but this is a guy who still has to message to the right. this deal would have to be made by the congress that just lost the election, the congress headed by the tea party. and it's iron ironic that it lost the election but boehner has to cling to it for now. >> but the american people
economy. you don't want to kill economic growth and end up with less revenue. we are reaching out, providing the revenue, but doing it in a way that gets people back to work and generates revenue from growth. gerri: i have to tell you, what i hear are people who are continuing to pitch their own position and not move into the center and the thing that amazes me, and ensure it amzes the american people, there is not even another meeting scheduled yet. how is that possible? days from the deadline. gerri: we should be meeting every day, and we are putting revenue on the table. that is a big step. the administration has to engage with us. gerri: thank you for coming on. we appreciate. ho you will come bck as these negotiations continue. hopefully you can find some kind of resolution. >> thank you. gerri: meanwhe, the house is back in session after the thanksgiving break. the speaker was met with an unusual demonstration. naked protesters, no kidding, outside his office. by the time we get our camera crew their capital police said godunov. comments on the fiscal cliff talk rich edson h
send the entire world economy into a recession. steve moore is here, senior economics writer at the "wall street journal." he joins us now from washington, d.c. will they prevent it, steve? >> the good news is, no one should ever listen to what they say. but, you know, these go sheesh and keep rolling on. my sources on capitol hill say that there is still a lot of gridlock there. the main thing, in my opinion, can they reach a deal on these taxes that does not require all of the requirements of business to go up? dagen: do think that happened, because again, there are so many taxes that we need to worry about, the lawmakers never fixed it for 2012. if they do not fix that, it will hit 33 million americans. the payroll tax cut. will that go away, because, again, it was temporary ones, temporary twice and it will still be a higher tax. >> im so glad you brought up the amt. nobody has really been focusing on this. that would be bigger than even extending the bush tax cuts. you are talking about $2 trillion in additional taxes on americans over the next decade if we do not fix th
on the economy running in to the holiday season. so we have the better housing numbers, up 3.6%. then we had a stronger consumer confidence number and we're seeing the best consumer confidence since, what, february 2008. let's put it in context. we're just in 73 territory on the digits. 90 would be where the economy would be if everybody was happy with their lot. and we're still some way away from that 90 figure. but apparently things improving on the fact employment is picking up. so it would appear that things are getting brighter for the u.s. economy, but, boy, we still need to bang some heads together on this fiscal cliff because until we're going somewhere on on that, these markets are treading water right now. back to you. >> all right, geoff cutmore live in london. thanks. >> what would you do with 500 pll million? >> i would say that's gambling and that when we cover the story, we ought to talk about the draw backs on people being taken advantage of and never get any money. >> t.j., how close did you get to becoming extraordinarily wealthy just this time last week? >> pretty close. o
cure the economy. the senior editor of "the atlantic" joins us live in the next half hour. he has an interesting perspective. >>> ambassador susan rice heads to capitol hill this morning to mend fences with three republican senators. john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly a at with her information comments made on several networks that played down the role of terrorists in the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, that killed four americans including ambassador chris stevens. rice maintains she made it clear the intelligence information she had at the time was preliminary. senators have threatened to block her nomination if president obama chooses her to be his next secretary of state. >>> and the obama administration responds to the benghazi attack does not get high marks from americans. the results of a new poll out this morning shows a majority of those questioned, 54%, say they are dissatisfied with the administration's handling of the attack. >>> and the body of yasser arafat was exhumed this morning from a mausoleum in the west bank. a team of international scienti
economy by shopping at locally owned stores. the movement is in its third year. and it is growing. according to a new survey 67% of shopper who's know about small business saturday plan to take part in it. that's up 44% from last year. dave, i know this has made you very sad. hollywood is mourning the loss of larry hagman. >> j.r. >> wait a minute. it's your style j.r., my wife and the man who put cliff barnes in office. >> you have got plenty of trouble before y'all got married. i don't understand why you think she has changed. >> hey. stop. knock it off. >> classic. >> legend. >> hagman best known for his role of course as the villain j.r. ewing on his star with dallas. lost his battle with cancer dallas hospital. linda gray had this to say on the star's passing. larry hagman was my best friend for 35 years. he brought joy to everyone he knew. i will miss him enor muresly. >> she was at his side. >> he he was apparently surrounded by family and friends. >> hagman was the son of mary martin. he was also known for his role as major tony nelson in i dream of jeanne, of course, he w
. >> grow this economy and engage in tax reform. >> simplify the code. >> ywhen you get divorced, thats what happens. ♪ >> welcome back after the thanksgiving holiday and all eyes are on the fast approaching fiscal cliff with republicans possibly maybe looking to make a deal. with the deadline now just 36 days away, some top republicans suggest they could, shock, horror, break with their sacred pledge to grover norquist. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge i made tennesseans aware is just elected that the only thing i'm honoring is the oath that i take when i serve when i'm sworn in this january. >> there's a lot that has been said about this pledge, and i will tell you when i go to the constituents that have elected -- re-elected me, it is not about that pledge. it really is about trying to solve problems. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece, but i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> sounds great, doesn't it? only one problem, th
travel is still popular even though the economy is sluggish. in terms of the tickets themselves yes they are up from earlier this month. if you're afraid of the big jumps we are still a holiday away from that. have a listen. >> over thanksgiving prices were relatively flat compared to thanksgiving 2011. where we do see a little bit of a jump is when we get to christmas. we see airfare prices 8% higher than we saw last christmas. >> maybe it's a big headache for folks that are traveling today is the number of canceled and delayed flights because of fog in the chicago area. it really impaired midway and owe hair. it's a domino system. a lot of the regional flights, everything you see up here in yellow is at least delayed. a lot of the canceled flights are from the midwest, springfield, missouri, and other points in the midwest. make sure you check with your airline if you're traveling today. heather: that is a lot of yellow on the screen. folks were waiving to you in the line, they didn't look some aggravated. hatch of the thanksgiving travelers will go by car instead. what is the imp
and it is going to take all of us working together because it would damage this economy if we have this kind of huge tax increase. but our democratic colleagues, all they want to talk about is, more taxes, more taxes, more revenue. they will not telling us where the money is going? they're not assuring that the money will be used to pay down the debt like it is suggested. so we need to see those numbers, what they planned, before any discussion is appropriate it seems to me. martha: you know, i mean, does take it from both sides. if you look at the republican side, basically they want to see cuts in spending and real entitlement reform and perhaps revenue that comes from the relief of some loopholes that are out there so that, bob corker i know has suggested maybe there be a $50,000 cap on the amount of deductions you can take in your taxes. republicans want to get there that way, not by raising any rates, correct? does that stand steady, that thought? >> i think that's a lot, where a lot of our members are. if you can simplify the tax code. make it more flat, more like a flat tax. eliminate
which means fewer jobs and that can drag our entire economy down. now, the good news is, there's a better option. right now, as we speak, congress can pass a law that would prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. everybody's. and that means that 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses wouldn't see their income tacks go up by a single dime. 98% of americans, 97% of small businesses would not see their income tacks go up by a single dime. even the wealthiest americans would still get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. so it's not like folks who make more than 250 aren't getting a tax break, too. they are getting a tax break on the first 250 just like everybody else. families and small businesses would, therefore, be able to enjoy some peace of mind heading into christmas and heading into the new year. and it would give us more time than next year to work together on a comprehensive plan to bring down our deficits, to streamline our tax system, to do it in a balanced way, including asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more so w
that central bankers can't rescue the u.s. economy if it goes over the fiscal cliff. paul is president of financial capital. given that we're talking about this so much with these guys not around, all we do is we keep showing how much time we have as it's ticking down. when they do get back, paul, how do you think that the deal looks if they do put one together, and do they get it done? >> good morning, and happy thanksgiving to y'all. we all know it's getting done, whether it gets done before christmas or in january, a deal's going to get done. i think also everyone knows taxes are unfortunately -- taxes are going to go up. i don't know it's going to be at the 250 level. maybe at the 500 or million-dollar level. but taxes are going to go up and expenses are going to get cut. so we all wish they would stop the jawboning and positioning and politicking, sit in a room with dulls, both give in a little bit and move on. but they're going to push and push and push and the markets will push a deal to get it done. >> so if you were trying to decide what to do, would you just stand pat with eq
as the eu and imf agree on terms of debt sustainability. where does it leave the greek economy which has already shrunk by nearly a fifth? >>> and warren buffett on tv this morning saying he wouldn't sell a single share of stock even if he was guaranteed the u.s. goes off the fiscal cliff. just wait until you hear who he thinks should be the treasury secretary. >> we'll begin of course with the deal of the day. conagra foods has agreed to acquire ralcorp for $5 billion. $90 a share in cash. 28% premium to the closing price on monday. kayla tausche reported on potential for a deal between the two companies back in 2011. it creates the largest private label food company in north america. this is a big deal. >> yes, it is. it's big in size in terms of what we've seen in this market. look how excited he is. and they finally got it done. it's been one as you pointed out that was around in 2011. they couldn't get it done. that is conagra. they walked away. ralcorp stock price fell dramatically. they split the post cereal division from ralcorp. the two trade separately. so you did have a compan
without concern for america's economy or standing in the world. we can't keep running trillion dollar deficits every year and throw a tantrum if someone suggests the taxpayers shouldn't keep turning every program they can dream up. let's take a look at the so-called thelma and louise democrats so he know who he's talking about. to say they are willing to go over the fiscal cliff, we have those who say they are not willing to support any reforms to entitlements. dick durbin says he would be willing to talk about it but only after a deal is struck. >> you have a difference of opinion in all political parties. i don't know many republicans who agree with mitch mcconnell. this is the guy who said his number one political goal was to get obama out of office. i think it's all positioning. you have got a bunch of democrats and mcconnell positioning themselves for negotiation. martha: tucker, what do you think? >> i think the republicans are being outnegotiated by an incredibly aggressive democratic party. they are demanding tax hikes on highest earner. an elevation in the debt limit which is
hit record levels over the weekend, on the surface maybe good for the economy and shows a good economy, what does dave ramsey think? he's the enemy of debt. but here you have millions of people going into debt, i don't think that dave will approve and he's going to join us next and of course, we'll bring you the opening bell. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him twongs -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll wk his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and me from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, nd he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from tdmeritrade. it's just common sense. you know it can be hard to lbreathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronicbronchitis. it's just common sense. youspiriva helps controlto lbremy copd symptomsat feels. by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups.
get enough of a recovery. i think we need a deal on the economy and on the budget and the debt, but i think until we get that, we need to have unemployment -- >> we have extended food stamps to 47 million people. we have extended unemployment benefits for up to two years and may extend them again. extended reach of earned income tax credit which is a massive check in the mail to millions of people every january. >> who are working and earning money and rewarding them for work. stuart: most corrupt of all government handout programs. >> it shouldn't be corrupt. it was a good idea and started by ronald reagan. stuart: you would not change the safety net as it now stands? >> i would try to make it work more efficiently but would not change it. stuart: you don't think there's anything wrong with a nation which has all of these millions of people, half the population taking something from the government. >> i think there is a lot right about that in an economic time of devastation. we can make the programs work better, but the programs shouldn't be eliminated because there's corruption whe
and they are offering this, you argue, what? >>guest: well, there are two ways you can damage the economy. one is to increase marginal tax rates, everyone knows the small business groups, it would kill 700,000 jobs off the bat, probably worse. the other thing is to eliminate $1 trillion, not talking about a few deductions, but talking about $1 trillion worth of deductions and credits which is what the other team wants. if you do this you have killed tax reform for a generation. how do you get the rates down if you don't have the deductions and credits. what obama is hoping to do is raids spend the money, kill tax reform for individuals. >>neil: what do you do, the house majority leader and others, talking increasingly about this as an option despite what you are saying, are you going to want to exact punishment on them in two years? >>guest: it is, there have been some folks whose pictures you put up there some of them have engaged in impure thoughts and they have not actually voted for a tax increase, be clear. cantor and speaker boehner have said they want revenues from economic growth. i wa
to the economy. that's what he did in the primary and that's what he said he was going to do from the beginning. he just executed a plan that didn't work. the very people criticizing him were the people supporting him saying he was going to win. >> we just talked to senator john cornyn, he said he's pessimistic that they will get a deal. >> my view, we all agree that we're not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000, we should take them out of this discussion right now, and continue to fight against any rate increases and continue to work honestly for a better deal. >> that's what the president wants, extend them for everyone under $250,000. i'm curious what you think. do you think that someone like cornyn, someone like boehner is the right leader for the party, or someone more like what cole is saying? >> there is a strategy to putting together a deal and that goes for, in washington, d.c. or, you know, in your private life. and that is you don't give the other side everything they want and then negotiate the rest of the deal. that's sort of a problem. you have things that
the economy in gaza as well. gregg: general jack keane who advised hillary clinton, thanks very much. >> happy thanksgiving, gregg. gregg: you too, sir. ainsley: thanks, greging. we're now getting new reaction from jesse jackson jr. stepping down. we will have all those details. gregg: and workers protesting at the los angeles international airport. the busiest travel day of the year, why the unions are now choosing this time to flex its muscle. >> happy thanksgiving, i love you, happy new year, and i'll be home soon. god bless. go, big red. gregg: developing right now in "america's newsroom," the bbc getting a new boss, tapping tony hall to head the british television network. he is the current chief executive of the royal opera house. >>> former french president nicolas sarkozy heads to court answering questions about suspicions he illegally accepted donations from france's richest woman to fund his 2007 election. he denies the allegations. >>> and the national park service says the statue of liberty, ellis island, both will not reopen to visit thers year. those sites have been closed for cl
are not spread across the board. the economy would take a hit of $500 billion, probably sending the country back boo recession. i get what the white house is saying and what people like patty murray are saying about how we should negotiate this and whether it's a cliff or a slope. >> it's a financial cliff claven. >> slope. >> i think even if it is a slope, if we go over the fiscal slope, it will do a lot of damage. >> right it could -- the markets will react, freak out. >> that's where the damage will be done. >> i love politico, a growing block of emboldened emboldened liberals. [ screaming ] >> say they're not afraid to watch defense spending get gouged. [ scream ] >> stephanie: if republicans captain see their way toward additional revenues then we're better off going over the cliff and readdressing this with a better congress in january. >> it's the republicans holding the country hostage. >> they're saying it's more of a slope where the economic effects will be handled gradually. we're going to have a whole new congress. >> more democrats. >> we have the technology. we can make them better
for the bailout money. it's a cold shower for anybody getting excited about the economy heating up a new economic report sends a dire warning about the world's economic health. predicts that europe's economy's going to shrink and the u.s. economy is about to take a sharp turn downward. richard quest from london, tell us about this group. is it a bunch of economists sitting around in an office, dealing with real numbers they're crunching? why the dire predixz. >> no, these are serious, severe people. the organization for economic cooperation and development oecd, the rich country's club. 34 developed countries, that is if your gdp per capita over $15,000. long way of saying, extremely respectable, extremely respected. what they are warning, and i've got the numbers in front of me, take the united states. it said they project the u.s. will grow this year to 2.2%, slow down next year to 2%, before picking up in 2014 to 2.8%. but so much so far, so good. the risk is all in the future. i'm going to read it now. according to the oecd the world economy risk, suzanne, is because of the fiscal cliff in th
rates which guess what, worked pretty darn well for the economy when clinton was president. >> i was surprised that david plouffe would bring up the idea of the grand bargain in the lame duck session of the congress. i think it's about revenue. this is about the legislation that they put in place about to expire after it was extended in the last lame duck session of the congress two years ago. and that was a two for one. one year of unemployment extension for two years of the bush tax cuts to take us to where we are right now. it seems to me there's a little bit too much wiggle room on the part of the white house to start talking about a granted bargain and chipping away at medicare and medicaid when you don't have to. now, do you read it that way? >> absolutely. and remember, this congress is worse than the one that's coming in. we're going to have a strength in hand in the senate and the house is actually even going to be a little bit better with more democrats and 11 of the worst republicans lost their re-election. so i think you know, it's ridiculous to me that they should be
not believe that we have this strong economy that they did on a day where decent data came out last week. which is it? >> good question. the bottom line is we're in a trading range right now. this market has now for about the last six weeks between 85 and 89 dollars. you buy the dips, sell the rallies and work in between there. this market is not giving you any reason to break out of the range yet. we're waiting of course with news dollar wise, stock market wise, inventory wise, weather wise, anything that could really give you at least something to hang your hat on and at least make a serious line in the sand here, up or down right now. but right now there's just a market that's trading. the story of the day, though, liz, natural gas, which i don't know if you realize, it's down almost 5% today. liz: i saw that. and i thought -- i just thought well maybe it's just because we're not really seeing as much snow as we expected here on the east coast tomorrow. >> quite accurate. in fact there was an updated weather report i believe from the national weather service that just predicts a littl
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